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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 18, 2008                                                                                           
                         8:37 A.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer called the House  Finance Committee meeting to                                                                   
order at 8:37:22 AM.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Mary Nelson                                                                                                      
Representative Bill Thomas Jr.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dan Spencer,  Director, Division of Administrative  Services,                                                                   
Department  of  Public  Safety;   Anand  Dubey,  Director  of                                                                   
Enterprise  Technology,  Department of  Administration;  Eric                                                                   
Swanson,  Director,  Division   of  Administrative  Services,                                                                   
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
John   Norman  Chair,   Alaska  Oil   and  Gas   Conservation                                                                   
Commission,  Anchorage; Traci  Mintz, State  Lease/Facilities                                                                   
Manager,  Department of  Administration;  John Glass,  Deputy                                                                   
Commissioner,   Department  of Public  Safety; David  Schade,                                                                   
Director,  Division  of  Statewide  Services,  Department  of                                                                   
Public Safety                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 311    An  Act  making appropriations,  including  capital                                                                   
          appropriations, supplemental appropriations, and                                                                      
          appropriations to capitalize funds; and providing                                                                     
          for an effective date.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          HB 311 was HEARD & HELD in Committee for further                                                                      
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          DEPARTMENTS DISCUSSED:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          Department of Administration                                                                                          
          Department of Public Safety                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 311                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An   Act  making   appropriations,   including   capital                                                                   
     appropriations,    supplemental   appropriations,    and                                                                   
     appropriations  to capitalize  funds; and providing  for                                                                   
     an effective date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ERIC SWANSON, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT   OF  ADMINISTRATION,   presented  the   following                                                                   
capital budget requests as submitted by the Department.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:39:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45399                                                                                                                  
     Palmer State Office Building                                                                                               
     General Fund 1004                   $ 15,725,000                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  explained  that  the existing  70  thousand  square  foot                                                                   
facility, previously  known as  the old Valley  Hospital, had                                                                   
been purchased  by  the State  for $5 million  dollars.   The                                                                   
State completed  the purchase  and sale agreement  with Triad                                                                   
Hospitals  in  September  2006.   An  additional  $5  million                                                                   
dollars was appropriated for:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   ·    $2 million sent to the Court System for renovations                                                                     
        to the Palmer Courthouse; and                                                                                           
   ·    $3 million allocated for the initial capital                                                                            
        improvements  necessary  to  transform  the  facility                                                                   
        from a hospital to  an office building.   Most of the                                                                   
        funding was used for the space occupied  by the Court                                                                   
        System.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson commented that the  FY 2009 request would be used                                                                   
for construction  and remodeling work.  The  dollars intended                                                                   
will transform  that space  into a  functioning State  office                                                                   
building.     Some  of  that   funding  would  be   used  for                                                                   
negotiating  early  termination  of existing  office  leases.                                                                   
The objective is to co-locate  all area-wide judicial related                                                                   
offices into  the facility, one  block from the  Palmer Court                                                                   
House.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:41:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  pointed out  that  there  has been  no                                                                   
indication  for extra funds  beyond FY09.   Mr. Eric  Swanson                                                                   
agreed that the request will take  the Department "where they                                                                   
need to be" without future requests.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas inquired  when  the building  actually                                                                   
had  been built,  indicating concern  about purchasing  aging                                                                   
buildings.  Mr. Swanson responded,  the building was built in                                                                   
1953.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:43:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson addressed the following project request:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45546                                                                                                                  
     Facility Deferred Maintenance                                                                                              
     AK Cap Inc 1197                     $7,618,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  noted that  the  funding had  been  requested to  address                                                                   
deferred maintenance needs for the following facilities:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   ·    Atwood Building                                                                                                         
   ·    Juneau State Office Building                                                                                            
   ·    Palmer State Office Building                                                                                            
   ·    Court Plaza Building                                                                                                    
   ·    Community Building                                                                                                      
   ·    Archives Building                                                                                                       
   ·    State Museum                                                                                                            
   ·    Dimond Courthouse                                                                                                       
   ·    Governor's House                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The  amendment changes  the funding  source  from the  Alaska                                                                   
Student Loan Corporation (ASLC)  to the Alaska Capital Income                                                                   
Fund (ACIF), since credit market  concerns have precluded the                                                                   
ASLC from returning  capital to the State in  the FY09 budget                                                                   
cycle.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  remembered a funding  request for  the Dimond                                                                   
Court House  had been  brought forward  last year.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Chenault  was  uncertain  of  the  specifics.    Mr.  Swanson                                                                   
indicated there have been annual  requests over the years and                                                                   
that the total  deferred maintenance projects  exceed what is                                                                   
requested.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:46:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45396                                                                                                                  
     Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (AOGCC)                                                                         
     Reservoir Depletion Studies Prior to Major Gas Sales                                                                       
     AK Cap In. 1197                     $1,500,000                                                                             
     General Fund 1004                   $1,000,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  discussed  that  the  Alaska  Oil  and  Gas  Conservation                                                                   
Commission   (AOGCC)  must  evaluate   depletion  plans   for                                                                   
reservoirs prior  to the  start of major  gas sales  from the                                                                   
North Slope  of Alaska.  Withdrawal  of gas prior to  the end                                                                   
of  the  oil   productive-life  may  cause   severe  loss  of                                                                   
hydrocarbons.  The  Commission will be required  to rule upon                                                                   
off-take rates,  timing and depletion plans for  those fields                                                                   
being   developed  before   the  gas   sales  are   approved.                                                                   
Significant  reservoir evaluation  studies will be  necessary                                                                   
to accomplish those tasks.  AOGCC  has completed a portion of                                                                   
the necessary work,  however, does not have  the resources at                                                                   
this time to complete the studies.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  NORMAN,   CHAIR,  ALASKA   OIL  AND  GAS   CONSERVATION                                                                   
COMMISSION     (AOGCC),     ANCHORAGE      (Testified     via                                                                   
Teleconference),  explained that  it would be  a part  of the                                                                   
reservoir analysis  undertaken by the Commission  by spending                                                                   
the last few  years to position  the AOGCC to be able  to act                                                                   
if a  major gas  sale project  were eminent.   Several  years                                                                   
ago, AOGCC sought  and received funding from  the Legislature                                                                   
to use for  that study.   The study of the  Prudhoe reservoir                                                                   
has  been  completed,  so the  Pt.  Thompson  reservoir  will                                                                   
receive the funding request currently before the Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:48:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  inquired what  is  happening  at the  Pt.                                                                   
Thompson reservoir.   Mr. Norman  replied that there  is less                                                                   
data  concerning  long-term production  and  anticipated  gas                                                                   
cycling.   Over  the years,  there have  been nineteen  wells                                                                   
drilled.    The  Commission  has  requested  access  to  that                                                                   
information;  the Commission  retains the  power to  subpoena                                                                   
and  is  scheduled to  view  Exxon's  information,  including                                                                   
reservoir  modeling that happened  in the  fall 2006;  it has                                                                   
been delayed because of an ongoing  dispute between the State                                                                   
of Alaska,  Department of Natural  Resources and  the owners,                                                                   
regarding the legal  status of the units.  That  study is now                                                                   
back on track.  The primary concern  of AOGCC is to guarantee                                                                   
that in producing  oil and gas, there is maximum  recovery of                                                                   
both.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:53:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  questioned at  what point a  study becomes                                                                   
"stale".  Mr. Norman thought it  could have a possible shelf-                                                                   
life of three to five years.   Pt. Thompson is more difficult                                                                   
to determine  because the  study has  not been completed;  it                                                                   
will  be  on-going.    The  operator   has  proposed  to  the                                                                   
Department of Natural Resources  that there will be two wells                                                                   
drilled  within  the  current   season,  which  should  yield                                                                   
additional information regarding that reservoir.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:55:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault thought that  unless there is production or                                                                   
gas reinjection,  the studies  are "down  the line"  from the                                                                   
projects put  forth during discussions.   Mr.  Norman agreed,                                                                   
however, pointed out that good  modeling is possible with the                                                                   
new  available  information.   He  acknowledged  progress  is                                                                   
being accomplished at Pt. Thompson.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault reiterated,  there is no current production                                                                   
and it will be difficult to determine future projections.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:58:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker questioned  the "interplay" between the                                                                   
Commission and  Department of Natural Resources.   Mr. Norman                                                                   
directed his comments  on the relationship between  AOGCC and                                                                   
the  Department of  Natural  Resources,  stressing they  both                                                                   
have  attempted  to  eliminate  overlap.   The  role  of  the                                                                   
Department  is   different  than  the  Commission   and  must                                                                   
optimize  production  for the  State  of  Alaska.   AOGCC  is                                                                   
responsible for  looking-out against waste in  that resource.                                                                   
Consequently, each agency has separate focus.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson addressed the next project:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45354                                                                                                                  
     Microsoft Directory Project Phase 3                                                                                        
     Information Svc 1081                $1,750,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He clarified  that the funding  would allow work  to continue                                                                   
on the  Microsoft project  providing dollars  to install  the                                                                   
directory.   The project  was  identified as  a phase of  the                                                                   
project  and a  phased  approach was  chosen  for an  orderly                                                                   
build-up  and deployment  of the centralized  services.   The                                                                   
first  goal  will  be  to  identify   the  pilot  departments                                                                   
representing differing  network environments for  the purpose                                                                   
of outlining  the  migration of  objects, applications,  file                                                                   
and print services.   The role of the four  pilot departments                                                                   
will:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   ·    Migrate all work-stations into the enterprise active                                                                    
        directory;                                                                                                              
   ·    Migrate all file and print servers into the                                                                             
        enterprise active directory; and                                                                                        
   ·    Authenticate    against   our    enterprise    active                                                                   
        directory.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The  project  anticipates decommissioning  legacy  files  and                                                                   
printing  servers,  saving on  licensing  and  administrative                                                                   
functions.  The  scope of the project will  be defined during                                                                   
the project planning phase once the project is selected.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson continued  his identification  of the  following                                                                   
request:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     #AP #45391                                                                                                                 
     Maintenance projects for Facilities outside the Public                                                                     
     Building Fund                                                                                                              
     General Fund 1004                   $250,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He  explained that  the funding  is  necessary for  continued                                                                   
maintenance of  facilities outside the Public  Building Fund.                                                                   
The group  of facilities includes  the Governor's  House, the                                                                   
 rd                                                                                                                             
3  floor of the Capitol, the Archives/Records  Center and the                                                                   
Alaska  State  Museum and    Building  Annex.   Each  of  the                                                                   
facilities is located in Juneau.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  commented that the inventory  list was                                                                   
below the amount  requested.  Mr. Swanson explained  that the                                                                   
items  had  also  been  included   in  the  overall  facility                                                                   
maintenance requested  dollars.  The Department  is currently                                                                   
doing some  of the work  from appropriated dollars  from last                                                                   
year.  He thought that the request  would be adequate to deal                                                                   
with the most pressing deferred maintenance issues.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:05:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker   referenced  the  list   of  deferred                                                                   
facility maintenance.  Mr. Swanson  acknowledged that some of                                                                   
the projects were the same.  He  offered to deliberate on the                                                                   
process,  explaining   the  different  funding   sources  for                                                                   
specific  projects.    There are  three  requests  that  have                                                                   
different funding  sources, the Capital Income  account fund,                                                                   
the  General Fund  and  the Public  Building  fund, which  is                                                                   
collected from the rates that are generated statewide.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker interjected  that the public  deferred                                                                   
maintenance fund has an additional  list totaling $97 million                                                                   
dollars.   He noted  frustration by  how the State  maintains                                                                   
their   public  assets.      He  questioned   the   "deferred                                                                   
maintenance"  within the  school  system,  pointing out  that                                                                   
there  has been  no funding  for "preventative  maintenance".                                                                   
He elaborated  how serious  the State's deferred  maintenance                                                                   
needs are.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson intended for the Department's  facilities manager                                                                   
to  address   concerns  voiced   by  Representative   Hawker.                                                                   
Representative   Hawker    reiterated   his    concerns   and                                                                   
frustrations.   Mr.  Swanson  pointed out  there  also is  an                                                                   
operating   budget   component   that   addresses   statewide                                                                   
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:10:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TANCI MINTZ,  STATE LEASE/FACILITIES  MANAGER, DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                   
ADMINISTRATION,  ANCHORAGE, (Testified  via  Teleconference),                                                                   
addressed  the   preventive  maintenance  costs,   which  are                                                                   
included  in  the  Department's  maintenance  and  operations                                                                   
annual  request.   Some major  deferred  maintenance such  as                                                                   
roofs  are  addressed  in the  capital  project  budget;  the                                                                   
proposed  projects  have  been  deferred  too  long  and  the                                                                   
funding has  not been made available.   She listed  the major                                                                   
roof  repair needs,  which have  occurred over  the past  few                                                                   
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker pointed out  that in the  Department's                                                                   
budget support  documents, there  is over $1 million  dollars                                                                   
in deferred  maintenance itemized  request projects,  yet the                                                                   
budget   request  approaches   $10  million   dollars.     He                                                                   
questioned  if it  would  it be  possible  for  the State  to                                                                   
address the needs  at that rate.  Ms. Mintz  stressed that it                                                                   
would  be best  if the  deferred maintenance  needs could  be                                                                   
fully funded.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker inquired if  there is a  comprehensive                                                                   
deferred  maintenance  plan  in  place.   He  maintained  the                                                                   
objective  should  be  to  protect   statewide  facilities  &                                                                   
assets.  Ms.  Mintz replied, the Department does  have a list                                                                   
of all the capital projects that need to be replaced.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:14:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mintz  confirmed  that  the   buildings  have  not  been                                                                   
maintained over the years.  Many  pieces of equipment are now                                                                   
failing.   The Department's list  prioritizes first  the life                                                                   
safety of individuals and then the equipment needs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker commented  that if HB 125 does pass the                                                                   
Senate, it would  require the Legislature to  establish a ten                                                                   
year prioritized  plan for addressing maintenance  needs.  He                                                                   
underlined  the importance  of looking  forward and  planning                                                                   
for the protection of the State's assets.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45357                                                                                                                  
     Public Building Fund Deferred Maintenance                                                                                  
     Public Building 1147                $2,500,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He discussed  funding necessary for continued  maintenance of                                                                   
State-owned facilities,  made-up as the public  building fund                                                                   
facility.  Those facilities include:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   ·    The State office Building,                                                                                              
   ·    The Alaska Office Building,                                                                                             
   ·    The Community Building,                                                                                                 
   ·    The Douglas Island Building,                                                                                            
   ·    The Atwood Building,                                                                                                    
   ·    The Fairbanks Regional Office Building,                                                                                 
   ·    The Public Safety building,                                                                                             
   ·    The Court Plaza Building,                                                                                               
   ·    The Palmer State Office  Building and                                                                                   
   ·    The Dimond Courthouse.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He pointed out that the request has become annual.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:17:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  directed  comments  to  the  Committee                                                                   
concerns.  He  remembered times when Alaska did  not have any                                                                   
extra funds,  currently available.   At those  times, choices                                                                   
were  more closely  scrutinized.   He  indicated support  for                                                                   
continued balancing of the infrastructure needs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked if  the projects had  been listed                                                                   
in a priority  order.  Mr. Swanson affirmed,  noting that the                                                                   
lists provide  a "snap  shot"; the nature  of these  lists do                                                                   
change with statewide emergency needs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:20:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  questioned if "politics"  had been used                                                                   
when   determining  prioritization   lists.     Mr.   Swanson                                                                   
explained that the priorities  were based on an input process                                                                   
received    from    the   building    advisory    committees.                                                                   
Representative  Kelly  understood  Mr.  Swanson to  say  that                                                                   
there was  no political influence  in the decisions  that had                                                                   
been made.   Representative Joule  countered that  there must                                                                   
have been  "politics" used when  determining choices  at some                                                                   
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:21:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson explained the next request item:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45348                                                                                                                  
     Web Based Banking Services                                                                                                 
     Information Services 1081           $325,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He advised  that funding  was needed  to enhance and  improve                                                                   
the   functionality,   reliability   and  security   of   the                                                                   
Enterprise Banking  Web Services  (ETS).  The  services apply                                                                   
to the credit card service, which  enables agencies to accept                                                                   
credit card payments.  The funding  also helps the Department                                                                   
to  establish  a  web site  where  agencies  that  have  less                                                                   
programming  support, can  access  to take  advantage of  all                                                                   
those services.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker inquired if  the Department  was aware                                                                   
of problems  resulting  from the credit  card receipt  system                                                                   
through  inaccurate  audits  and   decisions  being  made  to                                                                   
establish  inappropriate   rates.    He  questioned   if  the                                                                   
technology was  ahead of the  Department's ability  to manage                                                                   
the requested  dollars.   Mr. Swanson  was not familiar  with                                                                   
the specifics;  however, was aware  that the program  had run                                                                   
several years, problem-free.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:24:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  explained   that  the  Department  of                                                                   
Commerce,  Community and Economic  Development has  indicated                                                                   
that  Department  of  Administration  is the  source  of  the                                                                   
error.  He was surprised that  Mr. Swanson did not know about                                                                   
it.   Mr.  Swanson offered  to  research the  issue and  then                                                                   
bring information forward to the Committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:25:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45395                                                                                                                  
     Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV) Alaska License and                                                                        
     Vehicle Information Network Replacement                                                                                    
     Receipt Services 1156               $2,500,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  explained  that the  funds  were  needed to  replace  the                                                                   
State's  Division  of  Motor Vehicles  (DMV)  network.    The                                                                   
entire system  is thirty-plus years  old and is out  of date,                                                                   
which is becoming increasingly  more difficult to support and                                                                   
maintain.      The  dollars   provide   for   the   necessary                                                                   
programming, resulting in a new system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  inquired  if  existing  language  was                                                                   
written in a COBOL system.  Mr. Swanson affirmed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:27:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson addressed the following request:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45400                                                                                                                  
     Retirement and Benefits                                                                                                    
          Combined Retirement System Upgrade                                                                                    
     General Fund 1004                   $  6,400                                                                               
     Benefit System 1017                 $103,400                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The existing  combined Retirement System (CRS)  was developed                                                                   
in COBOL  using  DB2 as a  database  on an IBM  AS400.   That                                                                   
technology is  rapidly nearing the  end of a useful  life and                                                                   
the skills needed to maintain  the current system are rare in                                                                   
the  present  marketplace;  staff  members  possessing  those                                                                   
skills are  nearing retirement age.   He emphasized  that the                                                                   
system is in great need of upgrading.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:29:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  commented that  the requested amount  was not                                                                   
adequate to  address the scope  of the project.   Mr. Swanson                                                                   
explained that  system replacements  would be addressed  over                                                                   
the scope  of several years  and that out-year  funding would                                                                   
be requested.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  asked if IBM continues  to support the                                                                   
AS400 series.   Mr. Swanson affirmed.   Representative Hawker                                                                   
asked how much longer that could continue.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ANAND DUBEY,  DIRECTOR, ENTERPRISE TECHNOLOGY  SYSTEMS (ETS),                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF   ADMINISTRATION,  responded  that   IBM  does                                                                   
continue  to   support  their   systems,  however,   as  time                                                                   
progresses, it becomes more expensive  to do so.  He believed                                                                   
that IBM would  not let "go of" their AS400's  and have newer                                                                   
technologies  that are  run on  the AS400 series.   He  added                                                                   
that IBM is one of the most expensive vendors.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker inquired if  the upgrades would  be to                                                                   
the  hardware  and/or the  software  components.   Mr.  Dubey                                                                   
responded that  they would have both components,  moving away                                                                   
from the AS400 series, which is hardware.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:31:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson addressed the final project request:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45653                                                                                                                  
     Cost of Living Survey                                                                                                      
     General Fund 1004                   $400,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that in accordance  with AS 39.27.030,  funding                                                                   
is requested to conduct a cost-of-living  survey.  The survey                                                                   
is   conducted   every  five   years   to  review   the   pay                                                                   
differentials  established  in statute.      The last  survey                                                                   
conducted was in 1995, which was not implemented.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:32:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson highlighted the three IT requests:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45352                                                                                                                  
     Facilities Remediation                                                                                                     
     Information Services 1081           $2,700,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The funding is needed for facilities  remediation work in the                                                                   
Juneau Data Center,  the Anchorage Data Center,  rural Alaska                                                                   
locations and the Atwood Building.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45376                                                                                                                  
     Network Security                                                                                                           
     Information Services 1081           $2,000,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson  pointed out  that the funding  would be  used to                                                                   
complete deployment  of DMZ  and network admission  component                                                                   
(NAC) for securing the State network.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45346                                                                                                                  
     Asset Management                                                                                                           
     Information Services 1081           $   500,000                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He explained that the funding  was needed to better manage IT                                                                   
asset information.   Those dollars  will provide a  system to                                                                   
track  IT   assets  as  they   are  procured,   deployed  and                                                                   
configured.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:37:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAN SPENCER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC  SAFETY,  presented  the  departmental                                                                   
requests:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     AP #40007                                                                                                                  
     Anchorage Aircraft Hangar Replacement                                                                                      
     General Fund 1004                   $3,000,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
*JOHN  GLASS,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC                                                                   
SAFETY, (Testified  via Teleconference),  explained  that the                                                                   
funding would be  used to construct a new aircraft  hangar at                                                                   
Lake Hood  in Anchorage.   That  project would safeguard  the                                                                   
Department's   aircraft   assets   and  ensure   that   safe,                                                                   
dependable  and mission  capable aircraft  were available  in                                                                   
the most  cost effective manner  to support the  Department's                                                                   
mission  of   preserving  public   peace,  protecting   life,                                                                   
property and resources.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #6121                                                                                                                   
     Aircraft and Vessel Repair and Maintenance                                                                                 
     General Fund 1004                   $1,000,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The  requested   amount  is  an   annual  request   from  the                                                                   
Department for  aircraft and  vessel repairs and  maintenance                                                                   
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #37774                                                                                                                  
     AST Law Enforcement Equipment Replacement                                                                                  
     General Fund 1004                   $500,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He stated the requested dollars  would be used for electronic                                                                   
equipment including radar, scanners  and digital cameras used                                                                   
in the field.   It is an  annual request, attempting  to keep                                                                   
equipment current.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AP #ADM41788                                                                                                               
     Facilities    Deferred    Maintenance,    Repairs    and                                                                   
     Improvements                                                                                                               
     AK Cap Inc                          $1,715,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer explained  that the item was a  "narrowly written                                                                   
deferred   maintenance   request"   appropriation   for   the                                                                   
foundations,  sewer systems,  roofs  and boilers.   The  last                                                                   
time the Department  did a statewide facility  assessment was                                                                   
in the 1990's.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  pointed out that there has  not been a                                                                   
"comprehensive"  facilities  study   done  in  18  years  and                                                                   
questioned  if it  was time  for  another one.   Mr.  Spencer                                                                   
surmised that a larger study would be productive.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:44:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer introduced the following component request:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AP #ADM 45300                                                                                                              
     Law Enforcement Equipment Replacement                                                                                      
     General Fund 1004                        $475,000                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He noted that the  increment was specific.  It  would be used                                                                   
for  all  necessary  items  during  the  course  of  business                                                                   
including replacement of four-wheelers  and snow machines for                                                                   
field use.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     AP #ADM45337                                                                                                               
     Mobile Data Computers                                                                                                      
     General Fund 1004                        $480,000                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He indicated that  the item request would be  used for Alaska                                                                   
State  Troopers mobile  computers.   The  funding allows  the                                                                   
Department to place lap-top computers  and equipment in sixty                                                                   
parole cars,  which would bring  the State Troopers  into the                                                                   
modern  technology  phase.    He  maintained  it  would  have                                                                   
significant benefits for the State of Alaska.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     AP #42920                                                                                                                  
     Fire Training Engine for                                                                                                   
               Southeast Regional Training Center                                                                               
     General Fund 1004                        $350,000                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  explained  the increment  provides  funding  to                                                                   
purchase a fire  training engine for Juneau.   Having such an                                                                   
engine allows the  fire fighting training program  to use the                                                                   
most  modern  equipment and  which  would  also be  used  for                                                                   
responding to fire calls throughout the Juneau area.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45325                                                                                                                  
     Crime Laboratory Equipment Replacement                                                                                     
     General Fund 1004                   $100,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that the requested  item provides  an equipment                                                                   
replacement for  the crime lab,  which replaces  a microscope                                                                   
that  is twenty  one  years old.   Under  current  technology                                                                   
standards, the microscope currently used is out of date.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45524                                                                                                                  
     Facilities Engineering Assessments, Repair                                                                                 
               and Improvements                                                                                                 
     General Fund 1004                   $350,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer continued.   The  project  provides funding  for                                                                   
undertaking   a  comprehensive   review   of  facilities   in                                                                   
Soldotna, Bethel  and Fairbanks  area.  The allocation  would                                                                   
provide   for  a   contractor   to  assess   the   buildings,                                                                   
determining  what it  would take  to bring  the buildings  to                                                                   
code.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45319                                                                                                                  
     Fairbanks Regional Fire Training Center Burn Building                                                                      
     General Fund 1004                   $395,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He stated  the request would  be used  to build a  two story,                                                                   
concrete  building at  the  Fairbanks fire  training  center.                                                                   
Construction of  that space would  provide a place  for live-                                                                   
fire training exercises.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained that the  next two items  were federal                                                                   
receipt projects, reoccurring annually.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AP #35825                                                                                                                  
     Marine Fisheries Patrol Improvements                                                                                       
     Federal Receipts 1002               $2,000,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     AP #38479                                                                                                                  
     Rural Law Enforcement Training and Equipment                                                                               
     Federal Receipts 1002               $1,000,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer noted the information technology projects:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45316                                                                                                                  
     Modernize Supply Inventory, Deliver Order                                                                                  
          And Arms Database                                                                                                     
     General Fund 1004                   $50,000                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The project  would allow  the Department  to mark  inventory,                                                                   
which in turn would feed various  statewide systems.  That in                                                                   
turn would  allow the  State to  access the immediate  needs.                                                                   
Additionally, it could help to  automate the records of those                                                                   
confiscated fire arms.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #41544                                                                                                                  
     Alaska Public Safety Inter-Net (APSIN) Redesign                                                                            
          Year 3 of 3-Year Plan                                                                                                 
     General Fund 1004                   $5,000,000                                                                             
     Federal Receipts 1002               $2,000,000                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He believed  that the  funding request  would "hopefully"  be                                                                   
the last.   The  Department has  not yet  gotten the  federal                                                                   
dollars  and if they  are not  received, they  might have  to                                                                   
come  to  the  Legislature  for   that  funding  [$2  million                                                                   
dollars].   The project  has been  under-way for years,  with                                                                   
work completed  by contractors.   The system is  important to                                                                   
every agency statewide for performing background checks.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker questioned  if the  facility had  been                                                                   
included in the out-sourced data  warehouse.  Mr. Spencer did                                                                   
not know.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:52:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  SCHADE,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF  STATEWIDE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, (Testified  via Teleconference),                                                                   
explained  that it is  a main-based  computer system  used by                                                                   
every law enforcement agency statewide.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:53:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45321                                                                                                                  
     Active Director Development                                                                                                
     General Fund 1004                   $300,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He advised  that the  requested dollars would  be used  for a                                                                   
primary tool for authenticating  users to manage their access                                                                   
to APSIN redesign.  That would  include online reports, other                                                                   
applications and the data bases used within the Department.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer addressed the next item:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45328                                                                                                                  
     Fingerprint Card AST Case Image Archive                                                                                    
     General Fund 1004                   $700,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The project funds a conversion  of existing paper fingerprint                                                                   
cards  and  the  Alaska  State   Trooper  case  reports  into                                                                   
digitized images.  The files would  become easier to retrieve                                                                   
for use by Alaska law enforcement agencies.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:54:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45329                                                                                                                  
     TraCS Project (Traffic & Criminal Software)                                                                                
     General Fund 1004                   $900,000                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He commented  that Traffic &  Criminal Software (TraCS)  is a                                                                   
technological  improvement,   which  can  enhances   accident                                                                   
report  and   citation  writing   and  storage  as   well  as                                                                   
statistical  mining, data sharing  and interoperability  with                                                                   
other criminal justice system agencies.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:54:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer highlighted the following request item:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45401                                                                                                                  
     Data Exchange with MAJIC Agencies                                                                                          
     General Fund 1004                        $600,000                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  pointed out  that  the Multi-Agency  Justice  Integration                                                                   
Consortium  (MAJIC)  project   would  facilitate  information                                                                   
sharing  and a  reduction  in  the amount  of  paper that  is                                                                   
currently  sent  between  agencies.   It  would  support  the                                                                   
Department's end-result of making  sure that criminal justice                                                                   
information is current, accurate and complete.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer continued:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AP #45336                                                                                                                  
     AST Records Management System                                                                                              
     General Fund 1004                        $950,000                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The  requested dollars  would provide  for the  documentation                                                                   
and  collection of  information  in the  form  of the  police                                                                   
reports.   Charging documents  is an integral,  enormous, and                                                                   
necessary part  of the criminal investigations  and the daily                                                                   
business of any  public safety agency.  The  modernization of                                                                   
the  records   management  system  will  allow   for  greater                                                                   
efficiencies in the storage, retrieval and date mining.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB 311 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:55 A.M.                                                                                          

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